Thursday, August 20, 2020

Making The Case For Logan Thomas

 


The Case For Logan Thomas:

 Was Never Supposed to be a QB

 Bonafide Athlete

 Progression Every Season as a TE

 Paid $$ to be TE1 in WAS

√ Opportunity Ripe for the Taking

√ We’re Blinded By the Suck


 

          I know some of you are thinking, “Logan Thomas…?? Is this a joke…??”

 

I can’t fault anyone for that.

 

I wrote him off too, and justifiably so.

 

The dude played 4 years at Virginia Tech as a QB & never completed more than 60% of his passes in any season. His 52-39 TD/INT ratio was just flat out ugly – especially by college standards.

 

Despite that, AZ (& coach Bruce Arians) took a shot on him in the 4th round of the 2014 Draft. As a rookie, Thomas completed just 1 of 9 passing attempts. AZ then promptly cut him before the following season, just one year into his rookie deal – a clear admission that he was unlikely to work out as a QB project.

 

Thomas tried to redeem himself with the Dolphins practice squad, but he couldn’t make the active roster.

 

The Giants gave him a shot on their practice squad too, but he couldn’t stick there either, and he never saw an active roster as a QB again.

 

He didn’t just fail, he failed miserably…

 

So we all wrote him off, & justifiably so.

 

 

          We all saw how bad Logan Thomas the QB failed & because of that, most of us haven’t been willing to hear out Logan Thomas the TE’s story.

 

& I’m not immune…

 

When I saw a tweet from my friend "Fantasy Mike" congratulating my other friend Jacob Vines on calling Thomas as WAS's TE starter, I thought to myself:

 

“Logan Thomas…?? A starting TE…?? Gimme a break...”

 

I only looked up Thomas's name again so I could write him off again… but to my surprise, everything that I found about Logan Thomas the TE was nothing but positive.

 

And his story is a whole lot deeper than I thought…

 


 Was Never Supposed to be a QB

 

          Turns out, Logan Thomas has always been Logan Thomas the TE – we just never got to see it.

 

He was never supposed to be Logan Thomas the QB & all of Logan Thomas the QB’s failures were never even supposed to exist…

 

When he committed to VT in 2009, it wasn’t just as a TE…

 

It was as the No. 1 TE recruit in the nation, on multiple boards…

 

24/7 Sports had him No. 1.

 

ESPN had him listed as an ATH (he played WR, DB, & QB in high-school) & his 81 grade would’ve placed 3rd among TE’s, ahead of both Tyler Eifert & Zach Ertz.

 

Apparently, when Thomas was being recruited, he even went as far as to “eliminate any school from the recruiting process that viewed him as a QB.”

 

He committed to VT as a TE.

 

But, as the story goes, VT coach Frank Beamer coaxed Thomas into throwing the ball around in his first practice with the team, perhaps dreaming of another dual-threat QB like he had previously coached in Michael Vick & at the time had in Tyrod Taylor.

 

Thomas took the bait & the rest is history.

 

He played his entire career at VT as a QB & we were robbed of ever getting to see what Logan Thomas the (highly-recruited & highly-athletic) TE could do…

 

But we did get a glimpse of the potential at the 2014 NFL Combine…

 

And boy, was it a glimpse to behold…

 

 

 Bonafide Athlete

 

          Participating as a “QB prospect,” Logan Thomas checked every box you’d be looking for in an elite TE prospect:

 

6’6”/248

4.61 40

35.5” vertical

4.18 shuttle


          Do I even need to compare those numbers to other TE’s?

 

Ok, if you insist:

 

Darren Waller

6’6”/238

4.46 40

37” vertical

4.25 shuttle

 

OJ Howard

6’5”/251

4.51 40

30” vertical

4.16 shuttle

 

Mark Andrews

6’5”/256

4.67 40

31” vertical

4.38 shuttle

 

Gronk

6’6”/264

4.68 40

33.5” vertical

4.47 shuttle

 

Logan Thomas

6’6”/248

4.61 40

35.5” vertical

4.18 shuttle

 

          Unfortunately, Thomas also threw the ball 60 MPH at the combine & QB whisperers drooled over that number just as much as the others.

 

He was still asked by some teams about switching positions – an inevitability after his eye-popping performance.

But his answer was – “I just disregard [changing positions] right off the top, really… I’d probably just tell you, ‘No, thank you. I’ll just take my chances elsewhere.’”

 

& can you really blame him?

 

He played QB his entire collegiate career & was a projected NFL draft pick at the QB position. If I were in his shoes, I’d have made the same mistake...

 

Unfortunately for Thomas, the predictable happened & his accuracy issues kept him from ever really having a legit shot at the QB position in the NFL.

 

It wasn’t surprising when he failed & it was the right move to write him off…

 

… as a QB – and only as a QB.

 

Because the NFL hasn’t written off Logan Thomas the TE – and you shouldn’t either.

 

 

  Progression Every Season as a TE

 

          Logan Thomas could have packed it in, taken his million in earnings & found another way in life.

 

But he didn’t – he fought back.

 

He announced a return to the TE position when he signed with DET’s practice-squad in 2016.

 

Literally the very next day… the Bills – who were 6-5 & in the playoff hunt – signed Thomas off DET's practice-squad & onto their roster…

 

Thomas fought for 2 years trying to get onto a roster as a QB & couldn’t.

 

He announces his return to the TE position (a position he hadn’t played since high-school, nearly 10 years prior) in the middle of the season & gets signed to a roster the very next day… Unreal.


With the Bills signing him mid-season, Thomas not having played TE since HS, & BUF having Charles Clay & Nick O’Leary established in their roles, there was no path to playing time for Thomas in 2016, but the coaches spoke highly of him. 


Here’s what Tony Sporano had to say:

 

“I think he has the tools to be really successful at this position. He’s intelligent… This guy is really motivated. He’s hungry. He wants it bad… The pass game comes naturally to him… Even if he doesn’t quite know the techniques of the route-running, he’s catching on really quick.”

 

BUF liked what they saw out of him in that half of a year enough to give him a crack at making the team again in 2017.

 

Not only did Thomas make the team – in his first full year playing the TE position since HS – but the Bills actually used him on offense, despite having Charles Clay, Nick O’Leary, Mike Tolbert, & Patrick Dimarco ahead of him in the TE/FB pecking order.

 

Thomas played 12 games & saw 9 targets, catching 7 of them for 67 yards & this TD

 

 

          In 2018 – just his 2nd full season as a TE since HS – Thomas had to earn a roster spot again, on an unguaranteed contract. Not only did he again earn his roster spot, but he continued to progress, playing another 12 games, catching over 70% of his targets for the second year in a row, & setting new career highs with 17 targets & 12 receptions.

 

 

          Last season – just his 3rd full season as a TE since HS – he signed with DET, who had also just signed TE Jesse James to a 4 year/$22.6M contract & drafted TJ Hockenson in the first round. Thomas again had to earn his roster spot as the 3rd TE. Not only did he do that, but he set new career highs for the 3rd consecutive year – each year he’s played TE as a pro.

 

He played a full 16 games & saw 28 targets, catching 16 of them for 173 yards & a TD. He saw his snap count rise as the season progressed & he even out-targeted Jesse James 28-27, despite James being the highly-paid free-agent acquisition & also playing 16 games.


 

          Through those 3 years as a TE, Logan Thomas’s numbers aren’t eye-popping, at all:

 

7/67/1

12/77

16/173/1

 

And that definitely means the fantasy floor here is a big fat zero…

 

But what would those (progressing) numbers look like if he:

-        Had played TE through 5 years of college

-        Participated in the combine as a TE

-        Was highly-drafted as a 4.61-running/through-the-roof-jumping (collegiately productive?) TE

-        & Saw a higher snap & route-share through his first 3 seasons more typical of that mold of a TE ???

 

Instead of him:

-        Having played QB through 5 years of college & his first 3 years in the NFL

-        Having to make a mid-career transition back to TE

-        & having to scrap his way onto a roster as the TE3 ???

 

          The progression might not be happening on a timeline anybody wants (Thomas just turned 29 in July), but it’s definitely happening…

 

And I’m not the only one who’s noticed...

 


 Paid $$ to be TE1 in WAS


When Logan Thomas became a free-agent this offseason, the Washington Football Team gave him a 2-year/6.1M deal – making him the highest-paid TE & 21st highest-paid player on their roster…

 

The TE’s behind him are Jeremy Sprinkle (a lesser athlete who had 7 receptions through 2 years & just 26 last year despite Jordan Reed & Vernon Davis playing just 4 games – combined – ahead of him), Richard Rodgers (a career journeyman with 1 reception in the past 2 years), & Thad Moss (who the team passed on with all 8 of their draft picks, including two 7th rounders).

 

That puts Logan Thomas in a firm position to see the highest number of snaps, routes, and targets he’s ever seen – as the starter, in the midst of his continued progression…

 

On top of that, his only target competition beyond Terry McLaurin is undrafted second-year pro Steven Sims, & two rookie WR’s…

 

 

 √ Opportunity Ripe for the Taking

 

          I don’t know whether Logan Thomas will emerge as a viable fantasy contributor, whether he’ll explode, or whether he’ll do nothing of any significance at all…

 

All I know is this – if there was a TE who:

-        Ran a 4.61 40, 4.18 shuttle, & jumped 35.5”

-        Who was the No. 1 TE recruit in his class

-        Has progressed statistically in 3 consecutive seasons despite being the TE3

-        Finally signed as a FA to be a team’s TE1

-        & his only target competition outside of the team’s No. 1 WR was an undrafted second-year slot WR & two rookie WR’s…

 

I’d care.

I’d care a hell of a friggin’ lot.

So I’m putting the failures of Logan Thomas the QB aside & giving Logan Thomas the TE a chance – like the NFL is.

He’s free & you even have the luxury of being able to watch him go undrafted in most leagues & still have the opportunity to possibly scoop him up of waivers if he does anything the first few weeks…

Keep an eye on him & don't be afraid to spend one of your last picks on him in deeper leagues... because why the hell not?

The ceiling is the roof.

 

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          Thanks for reading! If you’d like more information on Logan Thomas, here are the sources I pulled information & quotes from. They add a lot of context to his journey as a football player & I highly recommend reading each of them as well.

 

Has Logan Thomas Finally Found the Right Spot?

 

Logan Thomas Tackling Transition to Tight-End


Combine Results

 

Washington Football Team Contracts


Logan Thomas Career Earnings 

& Here’s the little bit of film I could find on him…

 
(please find me more!)

Logan Thomas Highlights


Logan Thomas Bends Ryan Kerrigan's Face Mask on Monster Block

Monday, August 10, 2020

Making The Case For D’Andre Swift

 


Making The Case For D’Andre Swift

 

*Highly Recruited

*College Production

*Athleticism

*Draft Capital

*Landing Spot

*Receiving Upside/Floor

 


 

Highly Recruited

 

          D’Andre Swift was ranked as a 5-star prospect by 24/7 Sports & a 4-star prospect by ESPN. The two sites both had him in their top-100, as the 33rd & 66th best player (4th & 6th highest ranked RB) in his class. Both also had Swift ranked as the best player from his home state (PA).

 

Swift passed on offers from colleges including Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Miami, Auburn, LSU, Clemson, and Alabama, to sign with Georgia – a program which was becoming known for churning out NFL RB’s after propelling Todd Gurley into the top-10 picks in the NFL Draft & boasting highly-touted seniors & clearly NFL-bound RB talents in Nick Chubb & Sony Michel.

 

 

College Production

 

          Even as a true freshman in 2017, Swift forced his way onto the field, despite playing behind the two dominant seniors.

 

Even with Chubb leading the way on the ground with 223/1345/15 & Michel exploding for 156/1227/16, Swift made his own presence felt with 81/618/3 (7.6 YPC) – as a true freshman, in the SEC.

Swift was even the Bulldogs preferred receiving weapon out of the backfield, out-producing Chubb & Michel combined, with 17/153/1 receiving compared to 4/30 & 9/96/1 for Chubb & Michel.

 


          The Bulldogs more than doubled Swift’s rushing load the next year (2018) – giving him 163 carries, which he took for 1049 yards (6.4 YPC) & 10 TD’s. He also continued to show his receiving prowess with 32/297/3 receiving, a particularly impressive feat considering Georgia has historically under-utilized RB’s as receivers.

 

Since 1995 (25 seasons), a Georgia RB has hit 30+ receptions only 3 times…

3 times!

In 25 seasons!!

 

Knowshon Moreno (2008) - 33/392/2

Todd Gurley (2013) - 37/441/6

D'Andre Swift (2018) - 32/297/3

 

The last Georgia RB to do it before that:

 

Terrell Davis (1994) - 31/330/0

 

Not bad company to be in…

 

          After that impressive sophomore season, the Bulldogs continued to rely on Swift as a junior (2019). He took his 196 carries for 1218 yards (6.2 YPC) & 7 TD’s & caught another 24 receptions for 216 yards & another TD. He then made the obvious decision of forgoing his senior year & declaring for the NFL Draft, finishing as Georgia’s 7th all-time leading rusher after hitting 6.2+ YPC in all three seasons.

 

 

Athleticism

 

          There wasn’t a whole lot left for Swift to prove, but he decided to participate in the NFL combine anyways.

He measured in at 5’8”/212 pounds, which might not seem impressive on the surface, but is actually 87th percentile BMI (information, which I have thanks to this tweet)…

 

After Swift weighed in at the combine looking like a 21-year old reincarnation of his father Darren…

 

 

          He ripped off a 4.48 40-yard dash & 35.5” vertical & rightfully called it a day.

 

Post-combine, pre-NFL Draft, Swift was the No. 1 RB on most people’s boards – and rightfully so, being a dual-purpose ultra-productive super-athlete who requires hyphenated words to accurately describe him…

 

         

Draft Capital

 

          When the Kansas City Chiefs came up to pick at 32 in the 2020 NFL Draft, it was like a match made in heaven, but they opted to instead draft Clyde Edwards-Helaire, and fantasy players started losing their minds…

When Swift was drafted 1 night & 3 picks later, with the 35th overall pick, to the Detroit Lions – instead of 32nd to the Kansas City Chiefs – there was a collective groan…

 

The Lions?

Really?

 

You really had to do D’Andre Swift like that, NFL?


“THE LANDING SPOT… UGH…”

          Almost everyone hates it.


Because of that, the No. 1 RB on a lot of people’s boards coming into the Draft has fallen to 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, even 6th in some rookie RB fantasy rankings…

 

Swift’s caught the fade hard in redraft formats as well…


But is the landing spot really that bad??


          Some want to play the “name the last DET RB not named Barry…” game, but the fact of the matter is Detroit RB’s have succeeded with Matthew Stafford under center, we’ve only been de-conditioned to that fact based on the last 2 uninspiring seasons…

We might not have always been able to see it in the moment (based on our preconceptions of over-valuing carries vs targets)… but this has always been an impeccably ideal situation for a dual-threat RB to land in…

 

This kind of landing spot is exactly what we should have always been rooting for...
           

          In his 11 seasons in Detroit, Matthew Stafford has played 8 full seasons, including 8 of the last 9. Take a look at how he’s targeted RB’s in those 8 seasons:

 

2011: OC – Scott Linehan


Jahvid Best (6 games) – 40

Maurice Morris – 35

Kevin Smith (7 games) – 28

Keiland Williams – 8

 

Total RB Targets – 111

Total Pass Attempts – 663

RB Target Share – 16.7%

         

          Can we take a minute to just marvel at the fact that Jahvid Best saw 40 targets in just 6 games – a 16-game pace of 106 targets…

 

2012: OC – Linehan

J Bell – 68

M Leshoure – 49

K Smith – 16

 

Total Targets – 133

Total Attempts – 727

RB Target Share – 18.3%

 

117 targets to Joique Bell & Mikel Leshoure…

 

JOIQUE BELL & MIKEL LESHOURE PEOPLE (!!)

 

Decrease the attempts by 25% & you still have ~ 100 tgts to RB’s…

 

 


2013: OC – Linehan

 

R Bush – 80

J Bell – 69

T Riddick – 8

 

Total RB Targets – 157

Total Pass Attempts – 634

RB Market Share – 24.7%

 

149 targets to Reggie Bush & Joique Bell…

149!!

Even with the No. 1 + No. 2 WR (Calvin + Durham) having 241 targets that year & the starting TE (Pettigrew) having 63.



2014: OC – Joe Lombardi

 

R Bush – 56 (in 11 games)

J Bell – 53

T Riddick – 50

 

Total RB Targets – 159

Total Pass Attempts – 602

RB Market Share – 26.4%

 

Even with Calvin seeing 128 targets (in 13 games), Golden Tate seeing 144, the team rotating Jeremy Ross & Corey Fuller as the WR3 for 66 combined targets,

& Eric Ebron seeing 47 targets (as a rookie), the RB trio still saw 159 targets & had 3 guys hit 50+ …

 


 

2015: OC – Lombardi/Jim Bob Cooter

 

T Riddick – 99

Abdullah – 38

J Bell – 27

 

Total RB Targets – 164

Total Pass Attempts – 592

RB Market Share – 27.7%

 

Calvin had 149 targets, Tate had 128, Ebron had 70, & Lance Moore had 43 as the WR3…

 

Still, 164 RB targets…

 

164 (!!)

 


 

2016: OC – Cooter


Riddick – 67

Zenner – 23

Washington – 15

Abdullah – 5 (in 2 games)

 

Total RB Targets – 110

Total Pass Attempts – 594

RB Market Share – 18.5%

 

Even fringe practice-squad “talents” like Zenner & Washington combined for 38 targets despite starting just 6 combined games…

 

 

 

2017: OC – Cooter

 

Riddick – 71

Abdullah – 35

 

Total RB Targets – 106

Total Pass Attempts – 565

RB Market Share – 18.7%

 

This was the 8-year low…

106 RB targets…

 

 

 

2018: OC – Cooter

Riddick – 74

Kerryon – 39

Blount – 15

Zenner – 10

 

Total RB Targets – 138

Total Pass Attempts – 555

RB Market Share – 24.8%

 

 

 

To summarize, that’s RB target totals of:

111

133

157

159

164

110

106

138

 

At no point, over the span of 8 full seasons & his first 3 offensive coordinators, did Mathew Stafford target his RB corps less than 106 times. His offenses averaged ~ 134 RB targets in that time…

 

A lot of people want to throw out that information because “Jim Bob Cooter is gone” or “Darrell Bevell is the coordinator now,” but even last year with Bevell, look at the RB targets…

 

 

 

2019: OC – Darrell Bevell

 

(8 Stafford starts)

 

Kerryon (6 games) – 14

JD McKissic – 17

Ty Johnson – 16

 

Total RB targets – 47

Total Pass Attempts – 291

RB Market Share – 16.1%

 

 

          Even in a Darrel Bevell offense, 47 targets in 8 games is a pace of 94 RB targets… to Kerryon, McKissic, & Ty Johnson…

 

That would have been a remarkably high career-low in RB targets for Stafford.

 

Even if you project the same 94 targets for Swift & Kerryon this year, a 50% share of that is 47 targets, a 60% share is 56 targets, & a 70% share is 65 targets.

& if you project the RB duo of Swift/Kerryon to earn even an incrementally higher market share of the total targets this year than the trio of Kerryon/McKissic/Johnson earned in 8 games last year, we could be talking about the total RB targets being back up in the more typical 110-120 Stafford range.

 

That gives us roughly a projected range of ~ 90-120 RB targets in DET this year.

 

If Swift demands a larger share of the targets than 60%, or Kerryon gets hurt (which he’s been known to do), we could be talking about close to an 80-target ceiling for Swift, even as a rookie.



          To illustrate just how important these targets are, consider the fact that in a PPR league, a target is worth roughly 2.5 – 3X more than a carry.

 

Just search “target more valuable than carry” into Twitter & you’ll get some great breakdowns…


(Graph credit to Scott Barrett & PFF)

          Essentially, each carry has been worth about .55 to .60 fantasy points in PPR leagues, on average, while each target has been worth about 1.55 to 1.63 fantasy points, on average.

 

That’s nearly triple the value in a target vs a carry…

 

 

 

          Using those numbers, on average:

 

150 carries/50 targets > 200 carries/30 targets

 

150 carries/75 targets > 270 carries/30 targets

 

175 carries/50 targets > 250 carries/40 targets

 

175 carries/80 targets > 300 carries/30 targets

 

 

          Swift doesn’t even need more than nine-ish carries per-game (9.3/150 total) to provide RB2 value. If he sees just 50 targets (about 50% of the total RB targets) in addition to 150 carries, at league average efficiency, he’ll get there:

 

150 carries x .6 pts/carry = 90 pts

50 tgts x 1.62 pts/target = 81 pts

= 171 pts

= RB24 last year

 

Imma go ahead & call RB24 his floor if healthy…

 

Even if he sees less than 150 carries, his stellar efficiency at Georgia indicates he’s got a solid chance at above-average efficiency in terms of fantasy pts/carry.


At his ceiling – whether due to his own deserving performance, or an injury to Kerryon – he could see closer to 65-80 targets, & with even just 11 carries per-game (175 carries total), he could land in the top-12 as a back-end RB1:

 

175 carries x .6 pts/carry = 105 pts

80 tgts x 1.62 pts/tgt = 129.6

= 234.6

= RB12 last year

 

That gives us a rough estimate of RB12 ceiling & RB24 floor, just based on projected touches, assuming league-average efficiency…

 

          With an RB25/63.0 overall (6th round) redraft ADP in PPR leagues according to FantasyPros, that makes D’Andre Swift not just a massive bargain, but a potential league-winner as your 3rd or even 4th RB drafted in 2020.